How remote work is evolving with HireMyMom’s Lesley Pyle

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In this episode, HireMyMom’s Lesley Pyle joins On Top of PR host Jason Mudd to discuss how remote work is transforming the modern workforce

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5 things you’ll learn during the full episode:

How remote work has evolved from a niche option to a mainstream employment model
What today’s professionals are looking for in flexible or freelance roles
Why small businesses are embracing remote hiring and the benefits it brings
How digital platforms and collaboration tools have removed barriers to remote work
Tips for staying relevant, confident, and competitive in a digital-first workforce

About Lesley Pyle

Lesley Pyle is the founder and CEO of HireMyMom.com, an online platform that connects small businesses with experienced remote professionals. She launched her first online community for home-based working moms in 1996 and has been a leading voice in the evolution of flexible freelance work ever since.

With a master’s degree in public relations and over 25 years of entrepreneurial experience, Lesley understands the shifting priorities of today’s workforce. Through HireMyMom, she empowers professionals to find legitimate remote roles and helps businesses discover top-tier talent outside of traditional hiring models.

Quotables

“Flexibility is the number-one thing people are looking for. That freedom is like gold.” — @LesleyPyle
“Technology has made it easier than ever for businesses to connect with top-tier talent virtually.” — @LesleyPyle
“We’ve gone from asking ‘Can this be done remotely?’ to ‘Why wouldn’t it be?’” — @LesleyPyle
“Staying engaged in your field, even just a few hours a week, keeps you current and competitive.” — @LesleyPyle
“The evolution of remote work isn’t just about where we work — it’s about how we define work altogether.” — @LesleyPyle

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How Much Money Can You Save by Working from Home?
Products for Your Company’s PR Pro Who’s Working from Home
Variety Is the Spice of Business
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Episode Highlights

[00:03:48] Why Lesley Started HireMyMom
"When they said no, I had to make a tough decision. I really wanted to work, but I did not want to work a full time job."

[00:05:42] The Idea Behind HireMyMom
"What if I could create a platform like Match.com but for small businesses and moms? And so, lo and behold, HireMyMom was born 2007."

[00:07:25] What Moms Are Looking for in Remote Work
"Moms want to be able to attend school functions. They want to be able to help with homework. They want to be there if the kids are sick. Flexibility, I think, is the number one item that moms are looking for."

[00:11:39] Staying Career-Ready Through Freelance Work
"It helps keep you in the career loop. You know, taking years off and then trying to reenter the workforce, obviously is going to be a little more challenging."

[00:14:20] The Real Cost of Childcare
"The average cost of childcare now is 15 to 20,000 a year. So for some people, that's a big chunk of their salary."

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00;00;00;00 - 00;00;17;06

Lesley

Moms want to be able to attend school functions. They want to be able to help with homework. They want to be there if the kids are sick. Flexibility, I think, is the number one, item that moms are looking for in a lot of them and a job. You know, that freedom and flexibility is like gold.

00;00;17;06 - 00;00;37;22

Lesley

And I know that there are moms that have, you know, bachelor's, master's and advanced degrees, but that, you know, they learn that that's their goal because, you know, as, a parent, you have so many things that you try to juggle and you don't want to live with regret. Having missed so much of your kids childhood. So having that flexibility is so wonderful.

00;00;37;25 - 00;01;00;02

Lesley

And now with technology, you know, businesses can can, collaborate with their remote employees, contractors, freelancers so much easier today than they could. And it's a win win for them because they get high quality candidates and not necessarily playing paying these top, pay, payroll and salaries. So it really works.

00;01;00;02 - 00;01;10;00

Announcer

Welcome to On Top of PR with Jason Mudd.

00;01;10;00 - 00;01;36;24

Jason

Hello and welcome to On Top of PR. I'm your host, Jason Mudd. I'm with Axia Public Relations. And today I'm joined with Lesley Pyle from HIA. My mom. Com Lesley is the founder and CEO of Hire my mom.com, a remote job platform connecting small businesses with virtual professionals from across the country. Since 2007. She earned her master's in Public relations at the University of Stirling and Scott, Scotland, and shortly thereafter she began her work from Home Journey.

00;01;36;24 - 00;01;51;24

Jason

In 1995, after having her first child, she serves on the board of directors for Mighty Oaks Foundation, the Texas Youth Foundation, and is a contributing writer to entrepreneur. Dot com. Lesley, welcome to on top of PR.

00;01;51;27 - 00;01;54;06

Lesley

Thank you. Jason, it's a pleasure to be with you.

00;01;54;09 - 00;02;25;09

Jason

Yeah, I'm glad to be here. Glad you're here. We are excited to help our audience understand how freelancing can empower moms to redefine, work and family balance. As I mentioned to you before we officially started, I first of all, I love the name of your, website. And second of all, when someone referred me there many years ago, like ten years or more ago, we found one of our, teammates, and started out working with them on a freelance basis.

00;02;25;09 - 00;02;49;13

Jason

And, she's been working with us ever since and does a great job representing, you know, your organization and, so grateful for your service and hoping our audience can also find an opportunity, through either hiring a freelancer from your organization or maybe consider themselves, for a role like this. One of the secrets to, I think, actually, is success.

00;02;49;15 - 00;03;24;24

Jason

Lesley has been that, you know, we tend to employ in the public relations professional profession. You know, females, typically young females, are attracted to the business or to the profession. And so, some of them over the years have, have worked at our agency and they've been military spouses or become moms. And I'm always encouraging them to, you know, think of us as a long term employment relationship, whether they move away with a, you know, family member that's serving in the military, and they have to be relocated or they decide to have children but still want to stay active.

00;03;24;25 - 00;03;30;28

Jason

We want to be that platform and outlet for that. And if they can't do it with us, they may as well do it with you, right?

00;03;31;01 - 00;03;33;06

Lesley

Absolutely. Yeah. That's what we're all about.

00;03;33;13 - 00;03;48;19

Jason

Yeah. Yeah. So, tell us, you know, I said in your bio a little bit that, you started your work from home journey and, after having your first child. So kind of tell me, what was your inspiration and passion for starting hire? My mom.com.

00;03;48;21 - 00;04;13;16

Lesley

Yeah. So, yeah, like I said, we started, doing PR immediately after I finished my master's degree. And I had big aspirations of doing corporate PR and kind of climbing that ladder. I was first generation college student, so putting myself through college and then getting, scholarship to get my master's was a big deal. So as you can probably imagine, I didn't have my sights set on being a stay at home mom.

00;04;13;18 - 00;04;31;09

Lesley

But motherhood happened. So when that happened and I had my first child, I went to my employer. This was she was born at the end of 1994 and asked, is there any kind of opportunity to work from home one day a week, two days a week, anything? I was desperate and of course there was no nobody did that back then.

00;04;31;09 - 00;04;53;24

Lesley

So when they said no, I had to make a tough decision. I really wanted to work, but I did not want to work a full time job. So my husband and I decided we would just cut back on everything that we could and I would begin a freelancing career. And so I did it the old fashioned way with, you know, knocking on doors, passing out cards, doing what I could to create a freelance business.

00;04;53;24 - 00;05;20;17

Lesley

And it was tough, especially without social media and email and all the things that we have today. That led me to start my first website in 96 called Home Based Working Moms, which was very much like a national Chamber of commerce, if you will, for moms who either worked at home or wanted to work at home. And it was a free membership or a paid membership, and all these moms were just looking for how can they work from home.

00;05;20;17 - 00;05;42;25

Lesley

But back then there were no jobs. So it was basically home parties or creating your own business. And so as businesses, culture started to lean more towards, being open to work from home, that's when the idea of hiring my mom kind of came to me. I was like, I've got this huge audience of women who would love nothing more than to find legitimate work at home.

00;05;42;28 - 00;05;52;12

Lesley

What if I could create a platform like Match.com but for small businesses and moms? And so, lo and behold, her. My mom was born 2007.

00;05;52;15 - 00;06;07;28

Jason

Oh that's great. Good story. So, tell me, about your website. It's not just for public relations professionals. There are all types of jobs and postings available there.

00;06;08;01 - 00;06;31;28

Lesley

That's right. Yeah. So pretty much anything that you can imagine a small business would need. They can find remote professionals, anything from virtual assistant to bookkeeping, accounting, account managers, public relations, writing, blogging, content creation, project management, online business manager, customer service like there's a quite a variety of jobs.

00;06;32;01 - 00;06;52;04

Jason

Okay. Excellent, excellent. And so I think what we want to talk about are kind of three, concepts that we have is flexibility that actually works, making the numbers work and thriving in the digital age. So, when we talk about flexibility that actually works. So moms are finding freedom in freelance schedules that let them show up for their families and their careers.

00;06;52;07 - 00;07;13;08

Jason

You know, regardless of traditional or, gender roles or bias or whatever you want to say, like, you know, most to most women, these are very important, roles. And they want to have a career. They want to have feel productive. They want to give back to the family. But at the same time, you know, they want to be immersed in the family, and rightfully so.

00;07;13;11 - 00;07;24;13

Jason

So kind of talk to me about the flexibility there that you, that, you're seeing, in the marketplace today, both from, candidates and as well as from employers.

00;07;24;15 - 00;07;25;14

Lesley

Yeah, absolutely.

00;07;25;14 - 00;07;42;22

Lesley

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Lesley

00;08;03;13 - 00;08;25;28

Lesley

00;08;25;28 - 00;08;35;24

Lesley

And I think one of the reasons that small businesses have learned that hard my mom's a good option for them is because these candidates pay a small fee to apply for jobs.

00;08;35;24 - 00;09;10;28

Lesley

So we weed out tons of not only just the, spam applicants, but also the people that will apply for every job that's posted without even reading the job description. So these these candidates tend to be invested serious job seekers, knowing that they're applying for work that, you know, they consider mom friendly. Most of the jobs posted with this are not full time 8 to 5, although there are some of those w-2s a lot of them are have a little bit more flexibility, so you might need to be available during certain hours for team meetings and that sort of thing.

00;09;10;28 - 00;09;31;11

Lesley

But you know, like I find even myself, there are days when I might get up extra early because I've got family things going on during the day, or I might work late at night just to catch up on things. That because I took the time at least part of the day to do something that wasn't business related. And I think, you know, that's what a lot of moms are looking for.

00;09;31;13 - 00;09;48;04

Jason

Yeah. That's good. I like the idea that the candidates are, you know, kind of paying to be able to apply so that, you know, that they're serious and that they're genuinely interested in the opportunity. Instead of, you know, spraying and praying, you know, kind of coming up to maybe spending, a little bit more time looking at that offer.

00;09;48;04 - 00;10;11;24

Jason

And, you know, what we're talking about is also not only professional and career fulfillment. But, you know, also ultimately opportunity cost, because your kids are only going to be at home for so many years. Right? And, you know, you still want to remain productive and active. And, you know, I've seen in my time, you know, a lot of people, men and women who decide to be the primary, you know, stay at home parent for whatever reason.

00;10;11;26 - 00;10;31;09

Jason

And then when the, when the traditional, you know, relationship is the kids move out in their late teens or early 20s and suddenly you've been out of work for 20 years. And, you know, as quick as technology moves and evolves, you know, a lot of people struggle to find, you know, work, back in the workplace, of course.

00;10;31;09 - 00;10;57;26

Jason

And then, you know, my my wife wanted to homeschool our kids, and I supported that 100%. And so, you know, she was kind of arguably out of the workforce for 20 years, but also the opportunity cost we took of investing in our children's education. Right. So, you know, I, I tell my kids with a little bit of pressure, hey, you got $1 million education because, you know, she, forego the earnings that she could have made working in corporate America to be there with you guys.

00;10;57;28 - 00;11;16;21

Jason

Not only did she lose that earnings, but we also spent money that we normally would have to spend on, you know, textbooks and communities and things like that that, you know, they could have received through public schools. So ultimately, you know, it is a big investment. And, I think I hope kids will thank their parents for making that investment later.

00;11;16;28 - 00;11;39;17

Jason

But ultimately, you know, you want to stay active. You want to stay involved. Any immediate tips or recommendations or thoughts on on kind of that idea of, of of the, the, confidence that that gives you by having, you know, staying active in your profession and staying relevant, you know, as for, your competitiveness as a candidate in the future.

00;11;39;19 - 00;12;14;09

Lesley

Yeah, absolutely. One thing I was going to add real quick before that, though, is one of the statistics I read is it said that 70% of moms said they were prefer freelance or flexible work over traditional full time roles at 70%. So that tells you how many candidates you have access to if you're open to freelance or remote hires, because there's a big pool of those, but absolutely, it helps keep you in the career loop, you know, taking years off, and then trying to reenter the workforce, obviously is going to be a little more challenging.

00;12;14;09 - 00;12;35;18

Lesley

It's it's doable. In fact, the lady across the street from me, told me she was signing up and I knew she had been a stay at home mom for like, 15 years. And I was a little nervous because, of course, she want them to be successful. And I think she had like PTO experience and volunteer experience and a little bit of working part time for a photographer, but no real jobs.

00;12;35;21 - 00;13;11;04

Lesley

But she was successful. I was really, encouraged that she really, you know, put her put time in her resume and put those volunteer roles in such a way that that portrayed experience that was valuable. But she also interviewed with such confidence. And when you exude confidence, that that sells. Well, obviously. So it is doable. But if you can work while you're, you know, trying to be to freelance or, work remotely, then you don't have that big career gap and you're staying on top of the new technologies and all the new things in the workplace.

00;13;11;04 - 00;13;33;01

Lesley

So it's always advantageous. And, you know, we have jobs that are posted that are only like 5 or 10 hours a week, and then we have jobs obviously, that are 30 to 40. So depending on where you are and, your journey, you can find just a very small part time role. If you're just wanting to stay current and just earn a little bit of spending money or you can, you know, go for the full time remote job as well.

00;13;33;03 - 00;13;54;09

Jason

Yeah, I love that. And the one of the benefits of our profession is that we have to be good communicators, which means we should be very good verbal and written, and written communication. So I've always encouraged people I know who are either, you know, dealing with a medical condition or, you know, a disability or just can't work a traditional job like, you know, writing is going to be your ticket.

00;13;54;11 - 00;14;20;18

Jason

You know, if you're a good writer, you can almost always do that, and, and whatnot. But let's talk about making the numbers work. And, you know, I know we're going to explore childcare costs that can, you know, the rising cost of childcare, you know, with all other costs that are rising and, you know, that can go really, deep into a traditional paycheck or into someone's, you know, earnings.

00;14;20;23 - 00;14;39;21

Lesley

Yes, absolutely. Couple of statistics I have on that are this really shocked me because I remember when I put my daughter in daycare for two weeks, it was $400 a month, and I could not believe it was that expensive. And now that's pennies, right? Because the average cost of childcare now is 15 to 20,000 a year.

00;14;39;28 - 00;15;00;18

Lesley

Oh my gosh. So you know for some people that's a big chunk of their salary. So that obviously plays a big part in whether you're going to work remotely and try to work around childcare. You know, if you can manage working during night, naps or nights or have a husband or something where you can split some of those duties.

00;15;00;20 - 00;15;20;26

Lesley

I used to think that I could work with the kid at home, but once you're, you know, those those babies turn into toddlers. I soon realized that that was not possible. So for me, I ended up having my sister in law come and basically be my in-home dandy while I worked. And then they transitioned to, the Mother's Day out at our church.

00;15;20;28 - 00;15;45;28

Lesley

But it still gave me control of when I had them and when I didn't. And they weren't in a full time childcare, which they loved the finger painting at church, and I loved that they had the messy stuff at church as well. But they also, the other statistic I was going to share is that nearly 60% of parents say that childcare is a top factor in deciding whether one parent will leave the workforce.

00;15;46;00 - 00;16;05;16

Lesley

So those two things alone tell you how important it is to, for parents when they're looking at the pros and cons of working a full time job versus leaving, because obviously working a full time job and paying that much in childcare for someone who's not earning a big salary can feel defeating.

00;16;05;19 - 00;16;37;07

Jason

Yeah, it sure can, there's no doubt about it. And speaking of, you know, that's at one point, you know, we found that some of the best place for childcare is actually in your local church where you can find, you know, maybe a college student or somebody who has, you know, some flexibility in their schedule. They can come in and, you know, work meaning, you know, take care of the kids for, you know, a handful of hours each day, which gives the, you know, the working parent, you know, some release, if you will, so they can, you know, get done.

00;16;37;07 - 00;16;58;16

Jason

And I'm always amazed when I have two hours to get work done, how much work I can get done in those two hours. Right. It's, I think that's called, Parkinson's law. So, you know, the time you have to do something is the time it takes to get it done. And so, you know, but that's one of the best tips that that I've heard and I give to other people as well, is just, you know, you don't have to go to traditional daycare, you know, for the same or similar price.

00;16;58;16 - 00;17;16;23

Jason

You can hire somebody, pay for them to take a CPR class, you know, do a background check on them. But let them come into your own home and care for your child there, or just get them, you know, to go for a walk with the kid or take the take your child to the park or something just to get the your child out or your children out of the house.

00;17;16;25 - 00;17;31;29

Jason

So you have some quiet, but yeah, I thought I when I first started Axia, you know, I was going to, I had an office in the den of our home. And when my daughter was born, I quickly found out that that's not going to work. So I had to, you know, find a way to get out of the house.

00;17;32;01 - 00;17;40;03

Jason

You know, I had an office, but I wasn't going to it every day. And then I started going to an office every day, and especially as we started, you know, growing and adding employees. So.

00;17;40;04 - 00;17;40;25

Dana

Right.

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Jason

Yeah.

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Jason

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00;17;50;25 - 00;18;15;14

Announcer

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00;18;15;14 - 00;18;24;18

Jason

So, thriving in the digital age, you kind of mentioned that a little bit earlier, but let's talk about, you know, remote remote tools and creative platforms that, you know, allow us to be able to work from anywhere.

00;18;24;20 - 00;18;53;21

Lesley

Yeah. So it's hard to remember what it was like before all the digital tools that we have now. You know, obviously zoom and, Google Chat, Google Meet, all of those, Slack and asana, Trello, Canva. There's so many tools now that allow you to collaborate and get things done and communicate with your team without having to text or call them, because that that's tending to, you know, not to be high on people's lists, to be interrupted with, you know, personal phone calls and things like that.

00;18;53;21 - 00;19;31;09

Lesley

So, it it's working out well. And then, of course, we have online marketplaces where you can find candidates for the jobs that you need. Of course, there's the big guys like indeed and Upwork. Then there's the small people like hire my mom, to help these candidates find these remote opportunities. So technology has definitely come a long way in helping, and, when the one of the statistics that I read was that 54% of working moms say remote work options are extremely, important to them, and technology is a big driver in that.

00;19;31;11 - 00;20;06;18

Jason

Gotcha. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, it's about providing a reasonable flexibility and accommodation. And I think all employers learned that during the pandemic, as we went through many trials, you know, both as employers and employees as well as just a culture in society. And, you know, I think we're there's an element of starting to forget about some of that, you know, accommodation and flexibility, that the employers are seeing and that maybe employees are forgetting that, you know, were allowed for a while and things like that.

00;20;06;18 - 00;20;24;17

Jason

So, you know, at the end of the day, that would be my advice is if you want the best talent, you've got to offer the best work environment and the best work environments allow for autonomy and flexibility and, and cooperation. You know, I, I don't know where it came from. It's probably older than me, but, you know, the cliche, it takes a village, right?

00;20;24;20 - 00;20;41;24

Jason

And, you know, the end of the day, it's in employer's best interests to create a, stable workforce, a stable work environment, and ultimately, an environment where parents can raise good children or, you know, children to become good corporate citizens in the future as well.

00;20;41;27 - 00;21;02;12

Lesley

Yeah. And it's, one of the things that we didn't really talk about or think about is, you know, your role modeling for your kids while you're doing this. So we have four kids and our youngest is 17, so we're, she's the last to fly the coop here. She has one more year of high school. But I found it really interesting because all she's known as an entrepreneurial mom.

00;21;02;14 - 00;21;23;06

Lesley

And, so that's one of the her, you know, top two choices in college, you know, is she has that fire now seeing what you can do, you know, with an idea to grow it. So, with it, it's another benefit, I think, of working from home is your kids get to actually see what you're doing and experience that type of career, whatever it might be.

00;21;23;08 - 00;21;43;03

Lesley

Her second, career that she's interested in just happens to be finance. And my husband just began working from home two years ago, and he's a financial advisor slash stockbroker. So he's got all his, you know, big, screens in his office. So she comes down one hall and sees me doing my work, and then she goes down there.

00;21;43;03 - 00;21;47;17

Lesley

So it's it's kind of neat that those have really. She struck an interest in both of those.

00;21;47;17 - 00;21;58;27

Jason

Sure. Yeah. That makes sense. Makes sense. Well, Lesley's were wrapping up. If people want to connect with you, online, they have questions or whatnot. I'm sure they can contact you through your website. But you're also on LinkedIn, correct?

00;21;59;02 - 00;22;13;16

Lesley

Yeah. I'd love to, you to reach out on LinkedIn. Lesley pile. Lesley, is Lesley so different spelling. So, yeah, you can connect with me there or message me there. I'd be happy to answer any questions or help out in any way.

00;22;13;18 - 00;22;17;11

Jason

And I think your username on LinkedIn is Lesley Pyle. Is that right.

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Lesley

That's right.

00;22;18;05 - 00;22;51;24

Jason

Okay. And then as we're wrapping up we've our audience I believe you know can do business with you two ways right. You've got someone who's in charge of resources and and hiring you know an extended arms ring kind of staff, whether that's, in-house an agency or maybe using freelancers. And then obviously we're going to have some people who are also, audience of our podcast who, you know, whether they're male or female, might have a desire or ambition to be able to, you know, work from home or do freelance work.

00;22;51;24 - 00;23;01;07

Jason

And they could connect to your website for that as well. So, yeah. How how do they best get kind of registered? They just hit your website, hire my mom.com and sign up as an employer or candidate.

00;23;01;13 - 00;23;19;25

Lesley

That's exactly right. And you actually don't have to be a mom to sign up. Obviously we're catered towards moms, but occasionally we get men or single moms or dog moms or whatever. Sign up. We don't check your IDs. But yeah, we have two links. Either find a job or post a job so you can click on the one that applies to you.

00;23;19;27 - 00;23;42;11

Lesley

And we also offer some white glove services, our concierge services done for you hiring. So we have an HR professional who can actually walk through the entire process of of, you know, posting your job, interviewing and presenting you with the top candidates with their expertise so they not only save you time, but they look at the candidates from, an experienced HR perspective.

00;23;42;13 - 00;23;55;26

Lesley

And then on the flip side, if you're a job seeker, we have, a concierge service for you as well, a career counselor, so to speak, with, resume and cover letter help. So we look to to really help our audience in any way that we can.

00;23;55;29 - 00;24;16;01

Jason

That's fabulous. And are there opportunities? And I think we covered this, but I just want to be clear, for two full time work, and part time work or. Yeah, and, and as well as, potentially 1099 independent contractor, freelance. So you've got a whole ecosystem of opportunities, available.

00;24;16;05 - 00;24;28;26

Lesley

Yeah. So it's up to the employer if they want to post a W-2 job or a contract to 99 job, but either one, you know, part time, full time, whatever they're looking for, we, we allow all of them and welcome them.

00;24;28;28 - 00;24;39;06

Jason

I assume you would just expect that there would be some element of flexibility and prioritization of, you know, motherhood being, a primary role or an important role in the, employment arrangement.

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Lesley

Yeah. I mean, there are obviously moms on the platform that are empty nesters or that don't have children or whatever. And they may be, you know, looking for just traditional full time employment. But I would say the majority of them have some, some type of flexibility to them. But yeah, there's a just a huge variety of, businesses and what they're looking for.

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Jason

Okay. Excellent. Lesley, it's been a pleasure to have you on the show and connect with you. And again, like I said, I've used your site over the years and had a great experience, and I trust our audience will, too.

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Lesley

Thank you very much, Jason. Since then. My pleasure.

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Jason

Yeah. Thank you. The pleasure is all mine. So with that, we've had another great episode of On Top of PR and, I hope that you enjoyed this episode. If you have a moment, please share this episode with a friend or colleague that you think would benefit from it. And with that, this is Jason Mudd fulfilling our promise of helping you stay on top of PR, be well.

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About your host Jason Mudd

On Top of PR host, Jason Mudd, is a trusted adviser and dynamic strategist for some of America’s most admired brands and fastest-growing companies. Since 1994, he’s worked with American Airlines, Budweiser, Dave & Buster’s, H&R Block, Hilton, HP, Miller Lite, New York Life, Pizza Hut, Southern Comfort, and Verizon. He founded Axia Public Relations in July 2002. Forbes named Axia as one of America’s Best PR Agencies.

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